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Nala
Feb 15, 2011 9:23:21 GMT 2
Post by Kieran on Feb 15, 2011 9:23:21 GMT 2
Nala--Simba's childhood best friend and at adult years, his mate after they fell in love.
She was much alike with Simba as a cub, adventurous, wild and somewhat brave. She also appeared strong-willed and empathetic. The years under Scar's reign must've made her even stronger and more determined, judging by her way of talking to Simba when she runs into him in the jungle.
Her story would make an interesting movie, I think. Suppose if she was a child of a rogue yet chosen as Simba's future mate, then living for many years believing Simba to be dead and suffering under Scar's tyranny and destruction, and when leaving to find help, ends up finding Simba... I would really like an official story from her point of view. Of course there'd be no sense in making the same story into a movie, but if the film's makers wrote a book...
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Nala
Feb 15, 2011 20:32:05 GMT 2
Post by Gemma on Feb 15, 2011 20:32:05 GMT 2
It would be interesting to find out more about her story. I like what they did with her character in the Broadway musical, but it would be nice to hear it from those who worked on the first film.
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TheLionPrince
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May 20, 2011 22:42:54 GMT 2
Post by TheLionPrince on May 20, 2011 22:42:54 GMT 2
To Gemma,
the Broadway musical was written by the same people that worked on the first film: Roger Allers (co-director of "The Lion King") and Irene Meechi (co-screenwriter of "The Lion King").
And, honestly, I think the Broadway musical did the best job they could do with expanding Nala's role in the story. A film about her point of view of the story would be a little unnecessary since it already been told by the Broadway musical. Although, it would be nice to know who her official father is since the "Lion King" directors stated her father could be Mufasa or Scar, but I won't accept it as "canon" although they created "The Lion King".
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Nala
May 21, 2011 2:31:25 GMT 2
Post by Kieran on May 21, 2011 2:31:25 GMT 2
...since the "Lion King" directors stated her father could be Mufasa or Scar, but I won't accept it as "canon" although they created "The Lion King". I'm guessing that in 10 years the directors had forgotten they'd made Mufasa have an arranged marriage for Simba and Nala. Because it makes no sense AT ALL for Mufasa to arrange a marriage between his own children. Not to mention that it would be out of Disney's morals to have half-siblings make a child together. And I don't see anything in the film to support Mufasa as Nala's father any more likely than some random lion because maybe she just inherited her mother's colours and pridelander looks as she obviously looked like her anyway. On the contrary there are numerous facts in the film to deny Mufasa from being the father. Ultimately that marriage/cub matter, but also how Scar apparently had no issues having Nala around when he claimed the throne. But really, if it was even Scar I think they would've just said so, instead of "could be". Also the fact that Nala's father wasn't originally determined speaks of how they weren't exactly keen on making Scar or Mufasa her father. So, to me it seems that Nala's father still hadn't been determined but they just said whatever first came into their mind by real life lion prides, while completely lacking to think back to all that they put into the film. Good other examples are Anne Rice who when asked, claimed that her vampire Lestat was 19 years old when he was turned into a vampire even though The Vampire Lestat book she wrote some 20 years earlier clearly says it was his 21st year when he killed the wolves and even from that point on it took time for him to get to run away to Paris and become an actor star there. The book literally describes that it took a long time. So in canon he could not possibly have been 19 but more like 23 or so, 21 in the least. And J.K.Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, has in an interview said that Death Eaters can not conjure a Patronus Charm. It is a Charm thatis very advanced magic and in essence takes nothing but an extremely happy memory. Death Eaters not being able to conjure that makes absolutely no sense. Because in canon there are some VERY powerful and skilled wizards among the Death Eaters and in any case they're humans too and what makes a person throughly and truly happy is an individual thing. Someone might draw true happiness out of a memory that would make someon else sad. So there is no way in hell Death Eaters couldn't conjure that charm just as well as anyone else. So, Mrs. Rowling obviously just didn't think it through but threw an interview answer atop of her head. My point; information coming from interviews should not be blindly taken as the truth for author's intent because indeed sometimes they have never thought of the answer before and thus throw something atop of their hats or have forgotten something about their original work. I don't think it was a hint to the father's identity. I think it was a thoughtless answer to a question that they'd never heard before nor bothered to think of while they might have even forgotten details of their film. I consider canon information words that the canon creators have taken time to form or at least make sense to the actual literal canon content. That answer about Nala's father doesn't seem like either case to me.
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TheLionPrince
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Jun 5, 2011 5:29:37 GMT 2
Post by TheLionPrince on Jun 5, 2011 5:29:37 GMT 2
Wow, Kieran, or AKA Vampire Outlaw, it is nice to know your opinion on that subject of Mufasa or Scar being Nala's possible father.
//I only edited the username reference to be to my new username, to avoid confusion. -Kieran (admin)//
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Nala
Jun 9, 2011 1:39:20 GMT 2
Post by Kieran on Jun 9, 2011 1:39:20 GMT 2
About the directors' answer on Nala's father...It seems that my speculation isn't the case about why they said so, but it seems I was right in that they didn't really mean it. In lack of a filmed version of the answer given in the 2004 Reunion, this is the most reliable source we can have - a detailed description given apparently by the person who asked the question: Sourece: The Lion King WWW ArchiveDoes anyone, if giving that a genuien thought, really believe they were serious with their answer? ^ First they say the father is the co-director. Then they waste time with more joking and laughing/chuckling. Then when they finally get to the answer, they say it "sort of muttering it into his sleeve". To me that screams that they were only fooling around from the beginning to the end. And they said "general assumption", NOT that either of them is. Assumption = taking for granted something for which there's no proof, or considering something to be a possibility. And, as I said before, I believe that if they really meant Mufasa or Scar to be the father, they would've specified which one - because they were asked who it is, not who it could be. Add all the fooling around to that and you ought to get the result of that we still don't have any answer on who really is Nala's father. A fact of life is that things are not always what they appear. Thus, when trying to figure out the author's intent, people should not focus only on WHAT is said but also regard just as essentially if not even more so, HOW it is said and in some cases also in what situation it is said. Because if you don't, there's a good chance you'll horribly misunderstand the matter.
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